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[Cristina-Irina]

Iata salcamul japonez pe care l-am luat de la service-ul despre care v-am povestit. A format radacini si i-au crescut niste crengute destul de viguroase.

Toate bune!

[happy]

Iata salcamul japonez pe care l-am luat de la service-ul despre care v-am povestit. A format radacini si i-au crescut niste crengute destul de viguroase.

Toate bune!

Foarte bine arata salcamul japonez dar nu este locul lui in ghiveci.In gradina trebuie plantat neaparat!!

[Cristina-Irina]

Foarte bine arata salcamul japonez dar nu este locul lui in ghiveci.In gradina trebuie plantat neaparat!! [/quote]

Intentionez sa-l plantez la sfarsitul saptamanii viitoare.

[MyBees]

Intr-adevar, foarte fain arata. Eu am esuat cu semnitele, nu am avut nimic rasarit. Am primit un puiet de la cineva insa si acesta este pierdut, dupa ce am avut o saptamana si ceva de ploaie dupa transplantare.
Am ochit insa cativa puieti pe langa niste copaci maturi, prin apropiere. Trebuie doar sa negociez cu "cleaningmanagerul" blocului unde cresc si poate la toamna resusesc sa plantez cativa.

Spor!

[happy]

Am ochit insa cativa puieti pe langa niste copaci maturi, prin apropiere. Trebuie doar sa negociez cu "cleaningmanagerul" blocului unde cresc si poate la toamna resusesc sa plantez cativa.

Mare grija sa nu fie din radacina groasa ca nu ii poti scoateAsa am incercat si eu din parc si nu am reusit decat 2 mititeti.Am germinat 2 buc din 100seminte,sunt mici dar cresc..

[stefanmadalin]

Mie semintele puse la stratificat mi-au putrezit,desi le-am dat cu dihtane. Am mai avut in aceeasi punga,in alte servetele umezite si seminte de conifere,mar,otetar, albizia...care nu au putrezit.
Le-am semanta,vad ce-o iesi.

Apropo,in capitala ,salcamul japonez a inceput sa infloreasca.

[happy]

Mie semintele puse la stratificat mi-au putrezit,desi le-am dat cu dihtane. Am mai avut in aceeasi punga,in alte servetele umezite si seminte de conifere,mar,otetar, albizia...care nu au putrezit.
Le-am semanta,vad ce-o iesi.

Semintele se tin la frigider in cutii cu capac putin umezite.Albizia nu se stratifica,germineaza si fara!Semintele de salcam japonez se culeg prin decembrie,in felulk asta nu se mai tin la stratificare!

[delorin I]

Are cineva experienta in altoit de salcam japonez? Ne-am gandit ca sa evitam cei 100 de ani pana la inflorirea celor din seminte, sa altoim niste salcami obisnuiti cu ajutorul unui foarfece minune cunoscut unora dintre voi!
Experientele mele cu salcamul japonez din seminte- am avut fff multe seminte umflate in lapte, mari, nu as fi crezut ca nu vor germina. Nu au facut-o! Tot ce am pus in pahare ecologice de carton nu a germinat! In schimb aproape tot ce am avut plantat are in cutii de iaurt si alte folii de plastic au incoltit si au crescut chiar frumos! Am avut cel putin 14 copaci crescuti frumos. Cred ca am pus ceva poze pe pagina mea personala! Dar...la transplantarea in gradina au supravietuit 3, in cele din urma am ramas cu 2 carora le-au plecat un rand auxiliar de frunze! Deocamdata stationeaza! Cred ca trebuie udati in mod constant asa cum faceam in casa! Dar oricum, acum ne gandim sa incercam altoire pe salcam de-al nostru!

[delorin I]

Se pare ca pot lamuri dilema mea de ieri legata de acest salcam japonez! Am gasit un material dedicat exclusiv salcamului japonez- dar nu prea limba noastra:) [urlnew=]http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/fletcher/programs/nursery/metria/metria04/m45.pdf[/urlnew] Vestile nu sunt prea bune! Din seminte se pare ca salcamul japonez in unele cazuri a inflorit si dupa 25-30 de ani, deci cine a scris pe undeva- 10 ani, eu unul asa am citit, se pare ca a fost generos!
PROPAGATION
When Sophora japonica trees are grown from seed, they generally
do not flower until nearly mature -- sometimes as late
as 25-30 years (Main0 and Howard 1972). This makes sexual
propagation a long-term project. However 'Regent' scholartree
flowers at a much earlier age and presumably other selected
genotypes could also be chosen, in part, for early flowering.

Daca pe paginile de limba romana se vorbeste doar despre altoirea speciei de salcam japonez numita de noi pletoasa sau Pendula stiintific, exista rezultate bune prin altoire si la alte specii de sophora. Butasirea se pare ca da si ea uneori rezultate! Cert este ca denumirea generica folosita de noi aici - Salcamul japonez , daca este sa fim scrupulosi, ar trebui nuantata.!

Sophora japonica has been successfully vegetatively propagated
by a variety of methods, including softwood cuttings,
grafting and layering. The most common cultivar, 'Regent',
is grafted, but Frank Santamourl has suggested it may be susceptible
to latent graft incompatibility.


Un alt material despre inmultirea lui Sophora japonica! Sunt destul de mutle detalii tehnice, care sincer ma depasesc! de pilda inmultirea prin rizosfera(?) Daca cineva ne paote da un echivalent romanesc al acetui material ar fi excelent...

http://www.86wiki.com/view/742323.htmMode of reproduction
The Golden Bough Sophora japonica(5)
Huang Jinhuai The main breeding methods to tree grafting, high grafting and budding two methods of rhizosphere. High survival rate, growth speed, is a commonly used method of garden nursery stock breeding.

Growth habit
Kimji Kunikihikaru, a little shade, cold resistant, but not shade tolerant, not quite strict to edaphic requirement, also can grow normally in containing lime and mild saline soil.

The first high.
A high grafting method, high grafting with the bark grafting grafting method. This method has the advantages of simple operation, high survival rate. Prior to grafting, selective growth full, no pests, about 1 cm in diameter Annual branches As scions, short cut into 10 cm wax seal, to prevent moisture loss, then sand storage in a cool wind standby.


4 months late, Sophora japonica, stay after germination, selection DBH More than 3 cm, the trunk is straight tree seedlings, grafted in place after cut. The scion is cut into 3 to 5 shoots back cm Planed noodles Surface must be straight, and more than a heart, the back end face cut into 0.5 to 0.8 small bevel P?. Stem in Sophora japonica section, select the smooth and straight place, Sophora japonica cortex vertical cut a small mouth, long length of scion Planed noodles 1/2 to 2/3, the scion along the incision Xylem Insert and phloem, xylem length cut face, and make the scion backside alignment median incision, face "blank" 0.3 to 0.4 cm, according to the Chinese scholartree roughness can be connected with 2 to 3 scion, and is evenly distributed, the scion connected, with 5 centimeters wide plastic cloth, the wound is tied tightly can.
A month after grafting, the survival of the scion can sprout. At the same time the Rootstocks on cryptophyte will germination, formation of sprouting, should be promptly removed, so as not to affect the growth of scion. Because of the scion growth, timely solution to tie, and will shoot tied to the stick, to prevent the wind was bad.
In addition, high grafting of usable also budding, grafting in the main branches of Sophora japonica seedlings, the specific operation reference rhizosphere budding.

Rhizosphere budding
Two, the rhizosphere rhizosphere budding budding root is used with xylem bud. This method has simple operation, high survival rate, fast healing, firm combination, conducive to the growth of seedling grafting advantages, therefore, widely used in growth.

The grafting method
Grafting time was in the spring and autumn season three can be, not leave the skin and not limit. The specific method is:
The 1 annual shoot clipping golden pagoda as scions, remove the leaves aside, because the weather is hot and other reasons, it is best to take with grafted with scions method, so as to avoid the scion. Time is too long, water loss and lower survival rate.
2 from the top branches bud scion 1 to 1.5 cm under the knife, slightly xylem straight down flat cut, to shoot 1.5 to 2 cm, lateral oblique knife remove bud. Then select the diameter of 0.5 cm above the rootstock rootstock, in from the ground 5 cm upwind surface smooth, cut down from a bud length and width section was considerable, the lower transverse oblique knife to remove the chip, then will bud into the stock interface. Planed noodles Aim Cambium Close to the rootstock face. Plastic film thickness of 0.03 cm, 1.2 cm wide strips tied around, all tied tightly wrapped around the wound. If the summer, after 15 days, the application of plastic film shoot near the knife to cut, the buds exposed, in order to make the new shoots out, and check the survival rate, and then welding didn't live. After 1 months later bound solution, after the new shoots grow, should be promptly cut anvil and removal of rootstock suckering, promote the growth of Huang Yehuai. If autumn connected, unbundling, second year spring before germination cutting stock.
The grafted seedlings, the summer after germination, should be promptly except adorable, promote the growth of new shoots. The seedling height 60 centimeters, to cultivate the straight trunk, with bamboo sticks tied or shoot, until the desired height. Rhizosphere Budding Seedlings was high up to 3 cm, DBH 2 cm, 2 to 3 years to the nursery for greening engineering.

[happy]

Delorin I,mare descoperire ai facut.Maine o sa tai cativa butasi verzi si cu pet in cap ii plantez in gradina dea lungul unui furtun pic. cu picatura.Era la mintea cocosului ca se poate si prin butasi verzi dar pe caldurile astea cine sa mai gandeasca
O sa citesc mai bine ce ai postat,este foarte valoros!

[Cristina-Irina]

[quote="delorin I"] Din seminte se pare ca salcamul japonez in unele cazuri a inflorit si dupa 25-30 de ani, deci cine a scris pe undeva- 10 ani, eu unul asa am citit, se pare ca a fost generos!

Eu sunt acel cineva si am gasit informatia pe internet intr-un material.

”Fact Sheet ST-596
October 1994
Sophora japonica ‘Regent’
Figure 1. Middle-aged ‘Regent’ Scholar Tree.
‘Regent’ Scholar Tree1
Edward F. Gilman and Dennis G. Watson2
INTRODUCTION
‘Regent’ Scholar Tree grows 40 to 50 feet in
height with a spread of 30 to 40 feet, forming a large,
rounded canopy even as a young tree (Fig. 1). The
canopy appears more uniform and predictable than the
species. The dark green, shiny leaves turn yellow
before dropping in fall. The very showy, greenishwhite
to yellow flowers are produced in mid to late
summer and provide an airy feel to the tree for several
weeks. A yellow dye can be made by boiling the
dried flowers and buds in water. The young green
twigs turn dark grey with age. The species tree must
be at least 10-years-old to bloom but the cultivar
‘Regent’ blooms at two to eight-years of age.”

Toate bune.

[delorin I]

De unde stim ca in Bucuresti creste Regent?

[Cristina-Irina]

De unde stim ca in Bucuresti creste Regent?

Din text rezulta ca Sophora Japonica infloreste dupa 10 ani, iar cultivarul "Regent" poate inflori dupa 2 pana la 8 ani.
Nu stiu cine are dreptate, studiul gasit de tine sau cel gasit de mine, dar, daca rezista copacelul pe care l-am plantat te anunt cand infloreste.

[happy]

Azi am facut un mic ocol prin parc si am luat 6 butasi de sophora.Am scurtat frunzele la 2-3 cm si i-am pus in pamant cu pet in cap dea lungul unui furtun picatura cu picatura unde mai am fel de fel de butasi:buddleja,smochini,pyracantha etc!!!Peste 2 saptamani vad rezultatul.

[delorin I]

Asteptam vesti! Ce plante sunt cele enumerate? In afara de smochin sunt necunoscute cel putin mie!

[marius_vfp]

Azi am facut un mic ocol prin parc si am luat 6 butasi de sophora.Am scurtat frunzele la 2-3 cm si i-am pus in pamant cu pet in cap dea lungul unui furtun picatura cu picatura

buna ziua domnule happy, care e perioada optima pentru aceasta operatiune , si care ar fi conditiile optime ca butasii sa se prinda ?

spor .